User talk:Hunterj/Archive 18

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Re: Hello
The banning of anons was a suggestion I had mentioned a few months back when I joined the wiki to help clean it up. I'm not necessarily for it at this point, because it seems like anons have stopped posting as much as they had been back in January, especially now that you are back to help moniter what they post. (Back at that point I think Tigernose was the only admin left that was active, and only four or five people ever did any posting.) If someone is monitering it, I'm wholly okay with anons staying able to post  (and I believe my original recommendation a few months back was to do it temporarily until we could fix most of the articles).

Anyway, I'll usually be on numerous times throughout the day to do a small (or extended) amount of editing, and if I have a long night of watching TV, I'll be on doing quite a bit. So if you ever need to get a hold of me, I'm usually on during nights (Eastern Standard Time). With that, I'll get back to playing some RDR and likely editing a few pages. Divine Paladin 21:52, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Request for Page Deletion
Vapiadia Walkthrough should probably be deleted. Right now it has absolutely no information, the planet is spelled incorrectly, and it doesn't seem to be doing anything to help the site just yet. Divine Paladin 00:13, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, what is the correct tense for Skill Points? It's not a real-world article, so I'd assume it's past, but I want to make sure before I fix a few of these articles.
 * I've tagged Vapiadia walkthrough as a candidate for deletion as it already exists in much better quality at Vapedia/Walkthrough. -- Haydos271 Haydos271-Sig2.png  Discussion 07:37, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Walktrought page
Hi again :] I made the Grelbin walktrought page some time ago. t the Do you think it is good? I don't know if I wrote the things right, so I am just asking :P

bye

Malllo 20:20, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It's good to know that the page is good, because I spent some time writing that thing :P

Also, do you know if this page should be merged with this page?

There are also some duplicated images that are exactly the same:

Could you delete 4 of them? Thanks :]
 * http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:Take_Aim.png
 * http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:Transported.png
 * http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:Destroyed.png
 * http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sniper.png
 * http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sitting_Ducks.png

bye

Malllo 14:34, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Deletion
Having them present does make sense, except for Deadlocked. In Deadlocked, I believe they render bolt rewards and this then technically crosses them over into in-game concepts (which is why I'm still confused about it). I'll leave the skill point articles as-is for now, but I know they consist of both present and past tenses at this point. (Maybe we could make them future tense! lol)

Divine Paladin 22:19, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ratchet & Clank HD Collection
Hey there!

It wasn't me who added the 'Ratchet & Clank HD Collection' to the appearences pages for some of the characters ;-D they were already there as I was editing. I only added PlayStation Home to some articles, and removed it from others. Also removed the R&C Manga from some character pages too, since they dont even appear in the japanese manga. But I'll remember that anyway, so I can remove it from the appearances list too!

And about the other thing (with the old Insomniac website info) sure thing. I'll upload the original uncropped screenshots here, and I could try and add the link too but the 'Way Back Machine' sometimes messes up and says the links cant be found. But I'll try it anyway, since these are a good source of info for the lesser known characters and things on here.

Thanks again! LurkingLeanne 23:31, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

R&C Collection Question
In the Japanese trailer for the Collection, I remember it mentioning Deadlocked, but I haven't heard that it's an HD remake. Are we sure it's not just a PS2 Classics game? I'd add this into the page for the Collection, but it's been locked. Divine Paladin 07:17, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Ratchet clones
Didn't we decide on an early IRC meeting to have two pages? One reason being that they were clones of Ratchet themselves, but were also their own species. I'll have a look through the meeting transcripts. -- Tigernose  •  Chat  •  Edits  12:12, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Up Your Arsenal HD trophies
Hey, I was wondering if the trophies for the UYA remaster have been released yet? I've found the trophy images for R&C and GC, but not UYA. As I will be getting to creating their trophy articles, I was wondering if you have any idea where I can find images? I have a feeling that they haven't been released yet because they aren't on the PS3 Trophies website. -- Haydos271  Discussion 11:41, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Skill Point Overhaul
As you may remember, I asked a few days ago what Skill Point should be categorized as (Real-World or In-Game). After pondering this a bit more, I think I can decisively say that they'd be In-Game (Past Tense) articles, since you cannot physically see them outside of the game itself, compared to, say, (PSN) Trophies, which you have proof of outside of the game itself. That, in addition the the Deadlocked Bolt rewards, was what drove me to this conclusion.

That being said, I took the liberty of editing all the Skill Point pages in R&C1 and GC (with UYA coming later today) for tense fixes as well as conventions, etc. I also changed each to match a set pattern that could be followed in the future: "[Skill Point] was a skill point on [level] in [game]. It was obtained by [requirement]." , Followed by the how-to guide.

I should note, because I feel this may be brought up, that I did edit a few articles more than once consecutively. This wasn't an attempt to Edit spam to increase my amount of edits on the wiki, and was more of an oversight on my part that resulted in mistakes/forgotten additions. (IDK if you were going to bring that up, but there's my reason ahead of time, in case you were going to.) I don't normally do it as much as I did, but I have been up all night, so my mind's a bit shot lol.

Anyway, I'm gonna take a break to play some A4O, and then I'll fix the ones needed in UYA. Lemme know if there's any comments you may have about the edits. --Divine Paladin 16:15, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Admin rights!
Thanks so much for awarding me administrator rights. With them I can help the wiki so much more. I'm gonna keep this short, so a big thanks to you, Tigernose, Malllo, DrNefarious and Ryno4ever! -- Haydos271  Discussion 22:27, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Skill Points
Very well, I'll hold off for now on the Skill Points. I may work on adding guides to some, but I'll keep the tenses as-is. My offer for leading the Skill Point change does still stand, so once a decision is made, I'll be ready to help fix the Skill Point pages as necessary.

Edit: Whoops, forgot my sig. Divine Paladin 04:43, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Easter Egg Page
Should the Easter Egg page be in the past or present tense? It's in-universe, so I'd assume past. Also, there's a lot of use of the second person (you). Should this be modified? --Divine Paladin 04:48, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, that does clarify it, thanks. However, then shouldn't the first few sentences, explaining what an Easter Egg is, then be in present as well, if they're more of a Real-World concept? Right now they're past tense (which is why I actually iniitally asked if the rest of the article should be with it in the past tense). Divine Paladin 16:26, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I figured I'd bring that to your attention. I'll report any further issues of In-Universe vs. Real-World if I find any. Divine Paladin 18:14, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Read
Hello! I got a reply from Insomniac Games. Here is the message with my question, and with their reply:

''Hi again! Does Secret Agent Clank and Ratchet & Clank: Going Mobile make part of the Ratchet & Clank storyline? Are they spin off titles? Thanks :]''

bye

They are spin-offs, although still great stories!

Thanks for writing in!

-IG

Look, I think that they are non-canon games. I think they consider spin off as a non-canon game itself, because I asked them this twice and the basic thing that they say to me is that they are spin offs games :P

Also, should this page be deleted? Thanks :]

bye

Malllo 22:47, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Main page
Okay, thanks for letting me know. -- Haydos271  Discussion 22:14, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Renaming Ratchet & Clank Future series
I feel that we should change the word "series" in the page title. It's technically not a separate series, but more a trilogy of games following the same intertwining story. With the inclusion of more games into the series (A4O and FFA, and presumably more), I feel the term "series" is a bit too heavy to denote a miniseries of 2.5 full games. I think it should be changed to "saga," "miniseries," or possibly just "trilogy," but that's just my view on it. Let me know what you think. Divine Paladin Talk to me! 00:31, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit: On an unrelated note, what more could be added to the GC/UYA Ship Colors? They're currently labeled as stubs, but the only thing I could think that could be added would be pictures.
 * Edit number 2: I was just on the Insomniac forums and I noticed that the description for the "Ratchet Series" section of the forums involved this question. I'll quote the description here: "Discuss Insomniac's Ratchet & Clank universe, as well as the Future Saga and original PS2 releases." I figured that this was noteworthy (and this should be the last edit!).
 * Edit number 3: Here's the link to the Talk page. I set it up in a style similar to that of other wiki votes (User of the Month, etc.)  http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Ratchet_%26_Clank_Future_series  Divine Paladin 08:02, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok! Sorry :P

Malllo 16:32, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

All 4 One user project?
Seeing as how there are a LOT of messy and uncreated articles relating to All 4 One and there aren't too many people trying to help, I was wondering it would be alright if I lead a user project to improve these articles. I already have some useful links that users could help out with. -- Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 00:03, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Question
Hey, I've noticed that when Wikia welcomes someone on their user talk, it uses the name of either me or you. Does that mean Wikia uses admins names to welcome people, because that's kinda cool. I first noticed this when a user messaged me saying thank's for the welcome. And that confused me a bit. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 12:30, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Great timing. I come on the wiki just as you send that message to me. But I digress. I see what you mean, and that is a pretty neat function. Thanks. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 Haydos271-Sig2.png <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 22:18, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Merging Weapon Articles
Wouldn't it be more effective to merge all the articles for upgrades of the same weapon? For example, the Ultra versions of weapons could just be a part of the article for the main guns themselves. I bring it up because many of the Ultra/Omega/etc. weapons articles are stubs, but have no information that could expand them. Some, like the Omega RYNO 4-Ever, work with their own articles, but ones like the Ultra Blitz Cannon have nothing more to be added. Divine Paladin 14:09, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Short Vacation with a good reason
Hey, Hunterj, it looks like I might have to take a vacation for a while, since I've recently started taking game development classes, and this is really important to me as it may be a potential career choice in the future, and I'd like to spend as much time as possible on it. I hope to be back in full action around the middle of July, but I still might make small edits here and there in the meanwhile. Sorry for the inconvienience, but this is important to me. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 11:47, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * A little update on my short vacation. It's not going to really be a vacation, its just the time I can spend on here is drastically reduced to an hour a day. Also, I won't try to make any major article creations or work on All 4 One articles, just edit random pages here and there. By the way, I'm liking how the coverage on the R&C Collection is turning out. I can see it won't fall flat on it's face unlike All 4 One. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 Haydos271-Sig2.png <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 12:51, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

SCA(non canon, I guess :P)
Hello. I asked them(again!) about that thing and they gave me a different answer now, clarifying the things a bit more. I don't know what he meant actually, I just still think that the game is non canon. Here it is:

Hello. I just think that the game Secret Agent Clank for example does not fit in anywhere with Ratchet's and Clank's story. I mean, Clank used to play a role as Secret Agent Clank in Ratchet & Clank 3, and in the spin off game Secret Agent Clank, Clank just becomes the fictional character that he was. So if this game is canon, that wouldn't make any sense to me :P I know that I've taken this issue too far already, but I think this needs an explanation. Could you please give me one or comment about what I said in this message?

Thanks so much again for the person who is probably tired of me and of these repeatedly questions! :] bye

''<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">Your right, in that Secret Agent Clank is a fictional character within the canonical universe of Ratchet & Clank, much like Ratchet & Clank are fictional characters in our canon of real life. ''

''<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">-IG ''

As I stated in the message, I think that the story of the game doesn't make sense to the Ratchet and Clank canon story. Clank was a fictional character in Ratchet & Clank 3, and in the spin off Secret Agent Clank he becomes the fictional character that he was in Ratchet & Clank 3. That's kind of non-sense to me :P

Some things of the game doesn't seem to be right too. For example:

So what do you think? Thanks :]
 * Venantonio is said(in Secret Agent Clank) to be the home of the Amoeboids, but they were created in the secret lab of Dr. Nefarious, as stated in previous games.
 * Qwark dived in Hydrano without any problem or fear, but in A Crack in Time, Qwark didn't have the courage to walk in a small pound of water.
 * According to a speech from the Thugs-4-Less leader, he said that the last he met Ratchet was in Megapolis(when Ratchet shot his helicopter down), which actually was in Snivelak.
 * According to the description of Ratchet in this website   http://www.ratchetandclankps3.com/questforbooty/en_AU/index.html, Secret Agent Clank is considered non-canon(along with some titles). It is said that he saved 2 galaxies, which one of them was twice(Solana Galaxy, Ratchet & Clank and Ratchet & Clank 3). I am not shure, but pherhaps this also could also prove that Ratchet: Deadlocked is non-canon, as the Shadow Sector is in the Solana Galaxy.
 * No following Ratchet & Clank games mentioned any fact that happened in Secret Agent Clank.

bye

Malllo 21:18, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

All right, I'm interessed in leading the project :D I only don't know if I will get the job done, as I haven't lead anything here :P Thanks!

bye

Malllo 18:19, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Collection
I know that it is for story, but The Collection does have a story (which is explained in the manual), and the story takes place after All 4 One. DrNefarious 02:26, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry I forgot that. As you may know, the reason I think that is not good to put that information in the page is because it is not known if they were actually saying a "true" statement, as every comment from vox news on Ratchet are lies. If everyone thinks that this information from the vox news update that comment on Ratchet should be in the page, everything related to Ratchet should be in the page. I personally don't think it's a good idea, mostly because it's not known if those estatements are true. So, in my opinion, the page should be as it was before.

I reverted the edits of the user "Broccoli." one time and I only said that it wasn't good to put that information there. I know I should had to clarify things better and I was wrong, but calling my edits "ridiculous" and absurd, assuming that I have thirteen years old, that I am immature, that I am "talking crap", that I am being authoritary and arrogant(which he was with me after all), saying that my opinion doens't matter after all, and putting words in my mouth(read my messages and his responses and you may understand what I am saying) is too much for me. I sometimes get tired of all this, as I have passed for a lot of things in here and I was way insulted too much. I am just a person trying to help this site, but that's the treatment I get. It doesn't matter if I did something wrong. Everyone make mistakes, and nothing justifies the treatment that he and a lot of other users had with me. I sometimes think of ending up my edits by here, I don't know. Well, just wanted to unburden with you a bit :P

bye

Malllo 17:35, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

More stuff in the R&C Collection
Hi, I found more new things in the collection:

New skins

 * Sumo (UYA)
 * Ninja Ratchet (UYA)

Changes
The robot of Fizzwidgetdoes not speak in the visit to the weapons factory (GC)

Updates
If there are more things I tell you ;)

Darkflich 19:55, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Featured user
Hello! Thank you :D

bye

Malllo 23:47, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

How do I enter the IRC?

Malllo 23:53, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

What should we do in relation of the Ratchet page? "Broccoli." doesn't seem to agree with me, and I'm tired trying to convince him. Apperantly, Finskamän and Jaade agree with me. I wanted to put in the page what I said for you yesterday.

Also, read the discussion in the talk page. He is completly ignorant and arrogant sometimes :/

Malllo 18:36, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

My opinion is already stated in there But I'll put it again. Malllo 18:47, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Images
The images did not actually come from anywhere, they are just Images tha I removed some of the imagery from, like how the Prateorian OmniWrench image is the wrench without Azimuth in the picture (same with the image of the Ninja Sword and the Image of Ratchet in the comic series).

But I will add the source of the Qwark ship.DrNefarious 09:44, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Most locations could be in the Shadow Sector
The Shadow Sector is a region of Solana not sovereign to the Galactic Government, and therefore have no laws and the Government has no rights or authorities there. I have a theory that most planets in the R&C 1 and 3 games are in the Shadow Sector, here's how.

Planets such as Mylon, Koros, Novalis, Batalia, etc. are very likely to be part of the Shadow Sector, as the Phyronix Government does not send in a massive army to retake them whenever something bad happens, proving they may not be part of the Government. Logically, Phyronix would only be allowed to send the army in if they posed a giant security threat to his own country, e.g. Nefarious.

Phyronix didn't invade the Blarg territories when they began their invasions, and likely because they weren't exactly a threat to them as they were not attacking Phyronixian Worlds. Nefarious was a different story because he was indeed a threat, invading the Capital of Marcadia and attacking Rilgar, a Governmental World, years ago, and legally gave the Government the right to invade.

Infact, Batalia and Pokitaru could have had their own Governments since none of this happened. Kerwan could have became a State of the Galactic Government only in UYA.

My proposal is to add all landmarks in Ratchet & Clank 1 and 3 to the Shadow Sector, several of the Secret Agent Clank and Size Matters Worlds, excluding Marcadia and Rilgar. The reasoning is that if they were under Governmental control, then they would clearly have seen Dr. Nefarious having an army and building bases and arrest him. Whereas if those worlds were located in the Shadow Sector, Dr. Nefarious' exploits would be logical, and the Government not attacking the Blarg would be logical as well. The Agency working for Phyronix invading some certain Shadow worlds would be logical too because they are a threat.  Broc    msg     Blog   09:34, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

The Ratchet & Clank Collection
I know that you mentioned that the Collection should not be listed in the games section, but I had an idea, what if we did it like this

Apperances
What do you think?DrNefarious 03:01, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Ratchet & Clank Collection
 * Ratchet & Clank
 * Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
 * Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal

Venantonio
The trivia part isn't really needed, because if it is said to be the Amoeboid's homeworld, then that implies that Nefarious' lab was there.  Broc    msg     Blog   16:08, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Featured user
I believe that around that time of July 2011, the featured user was "Nil" until for some reason it was changed to you. I can't seem to find any evidence of this in history though, so maybe I was just being crazy. It probably should be changed. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 06:11, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Wanted pages
I was going through the wanted pages recently, and I noticed that there were a lot of "wanted pages" that are just redlinks to old spam pages that have been deleted, and usually the redlinks only appear on talk pages when someone gave a link to an administrator to show them that this is the page that should be deleted. Since they are basically shadowing the actual wanted pages, I feel that we should look at these redlinks and remove them from talk pages, as a sort of official cleanup so no-one gets freaked out. What do you think? -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 06:34, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll get to it. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 Haydos271-Sig2.png <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 02:31, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

IRC meeting?
Hey, Hunterj. I was wondering if we are going to have an IRC meeting soon, because I was checking over the agenda and there are a LOT of topics. Also, it seems the cache for wanted pages reset recently, so there's currently no wanted links. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 10:17, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Am I rigth?
Hi!Im LBPlombax7 :)

Look my edit at Gadgetron Tradesmen! Just asking if my teory is rigth. Can you watch it :)? Bye

LBPlombax7 (talk) 14:50, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Help
What do you mean with source and license? And I already saw the guide :)

Thank's for answering - LBPlombax7 (talk) 16:12, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hum...
What about this? Look over RYNOCIRATOR page. Is my edit ok?

LBPlombax7 (talk) 16:25, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Help!
I tried to but i can't! Look at this! I tried and tried but doesn't let me :(

And I haven't source. I toke the photo with my phone. What do I write?

Look: http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/File:RY3NOPHOENIX.jpg

And why did you erased all the changes I made at HD collection page?

Forgive me if I did something wrong.I didn't wanted to disturb this wiki. Sorry.

LBPlombax7 (talk) 16:39, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thank's !
Thank's for being nice to my modifications :)! And about contributions, im here to help ;) !

LBPlombax7 (talk) 17:33, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

IRC and GA
The forum system sounds like a great idea. I think, however, we will need to put up a notice to say that it isn't your typical forum and you can't just ask questions about something like how to get past a certain planet in one of the games. But I think the forum is a great to have an IRC-esque discussion while not using the IRC. Also, it allows for multiple topics to be tackled at once, instead of going in order. And about The Ratchet & Clank Collection GA nomination, I think you, Tigernose, and DrNefarious should all get the prize, but I think Kaini Industries should also be given credit for assisting with the bugs and changes from the original games. It may not seem like much, but going through the collection looking for those little glitches and differences definitely needs commending. -- <font face="Courier">Haydos271 <font face="Eras ITC"> Discussion 02:38, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Plasmabomb Launcher
Well in Playstation Blog (Here_is_link), it says:

"Upon finding a weapon pod, you’ll be forced to choose between unlocking one of two possible weapons. Plasmabomb Launcher or Warmonger rocket launcher? Decisions, decisions."

So I automatically thought, that it will appear in the game.

--Bloszar (talk) 21:17, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ratchet
I just noticed Malllo's edit on Ratchet. I reverted it because he has now changed it to saying that everything was a lie, including the pre-release news reports, which is baseless speculation, as there's no evidence that the reports on Sasha & Ratchet were false.  Broc    msg     Blog   01:22, July 23, 2012 (UTC)