User talk:Tim H/Archive 1

Layout changes
I know I don't have the position yet, and may not even get it, but could you tell me about these changes that you suggest? If I do get the administrative position I'll need help. I recognize you as an admin from the Jax and Daxter wiki, so your help with upgrading the layout would be greatly appreciated.Doc Nef (talk) 02:25, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with most of your points, there are a lot of pages that should be merged with others, or deleted entirely. It shouldn't be too hard to fix this. I understand that J&D wiki is your primary priority though, so I'll also get some other help for it.Doc Nef (talk) 05:31, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

I know, I merged all of the Star Explorer's paint jobs into one page a little while ago. I did the adoption thing on wikia central, and it says that a consensus, needs to be reached. You said that you didn't want me as admin because I'd probably just follow on from the previous admins, but I'm not doing that. So do you think I would make a good administrator here?Doc Nef (talk) 11:22, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

I have been quite busy for a while, that's why I've been inactive. But soon (a couple of weeks time) I will be able to edit on here a lot more. I would appreciate if you could note that you "give me your vote" on that forum I created, as the people at wikia central will likely look at it soon. If I dissapoint, you can always try and have me removed from the position anyway.

I'm afraid I don't have Steam, and my main email address is a bit trashed at the moment. I'll archive my talk page when we finish our conversation.Doc Nef (talk) 09:26, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure if this wiki has an IRC channel, sorry. I'd say starting with the first game would probably be most efficent.Doc Nef (talk) 16:24, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

I thought it made sense, most Locations/Planets only appear in one game each, and the location visited is all you see of the planet. Take for example Fort Krontos and Batalia. or Eudora and the Logging site, the location is all you ever see of the planet, so why not merge? Most of the location's information was on the planet's page anyway. I know that the pages are messy at the moment, but as you know this kind of thing takes time. I plan to clean them up before continuing onwards.

Of course some more notable locations - like Metropolis, would not be merged with their planet due to the locations greater significance.--Doc Nef (talk) 03:08, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

There's no point in telling me now really. I'm probably not gonna be a burecraut any time soon. Tigernose is back, if you want changes now you'll probably need to talk to him. Though I will as well of course.Doc Nef (talk) 04:42, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

I suppose you are right. Well, about the changes you suggest, why not put them onto a forum? That would be easier. I'll also refrain from merging anymore locations and planets until everything is sorted.Doc Nef (talk) 09:31, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for your help. I'll be sure and try to fix this wiki up. I've decided to leave the locations thing until last, in order for their to be time to see if creating decent article out of them is possible.Doc Nef (talk) 10:33, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

An Error on my part
Mr. Light Daxter. Thank you for pointing out the threat to my acount. I will gladly change the name, if such retributions are imminent. It was never my intention to cause such confusion to begin with. I can't seem to understand how to change my name, though. Is it possible to change my acount's name without deleting it alltogether?

Deletions
Please don’t delete redirect pages to templates. These are mostly used because the pages have been moved. 19:08, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Why did you delete King Sepiad/Guide and Template:Underlinked? 19:57, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Why did you delete Category:Gadgetron weapons?

You know, I wouldn’t have to question you were to put the reason why you delete pages in the delete summary. 20:10, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

WiFi down
Has been down the whole day, can only use mobile network and can't use Steam either. Not sure when I'll be up, but hopefully it will be tomorrow. Can you double check unused images by then? Also any maintenance task you want me to do when my WiFi is back?-- 19:40, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

Note
Be sure to check if a template works before you change it, as your change broke the template.

By the way, why did you delete the Ratchet & Clank Movie Announcement Teaser page? I wouldn’t have to worry if you actually used delete summaries. 08:14, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

Question about deletions
Why did you delete the “W” template and Ratchet & Clank wiki:Wikipedia? 18:32, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Take a look at my sandbox 2
So I was going to add to new infobox weapon template to the walloper and this happened Tumpp1357 (talk) 13:10, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Your issue was you didn't include an |image= parameter before the gallery, so it didn't show up as a template properly.-- 13:20, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * It is fixed now Tumpp1357 (talk) 13:22, October 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * You don’t need nowiki tags around parameters. Alternatively, you could also just use . 14:49, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Multiplayer UYA weapon info
What would be the best way to handle the info for weapons that appear in the singleplayer and multiplayer of UYA? --Tumpp1357 (talk) 16:31, October 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * N60 Storm, Lava Gun and Flux Rifle appear in both singleplayer and multiplayer. (You can easily play siege mode in multiplayer alone for research) And I can do SM and SAC infoboxes, however the Bee Mine Glove and Bee Mine Mk. II are so identical that they can probably be merged. (Work the same way, same manufacturer almost identical names) I wait for someone else's opinion on that and do them last. --Tumpp1357 (talk) 17:02, October 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * The Holoshield Glove appears also in multiplayer mode but can only be found in few maps. It can be found in atleast the Hoven Gorge map. --Tumpp1357 (talk) 09:22, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Will be unactive possibly after tomorrow
I am going to a school trip to Russia that lasts four days and I don't think I can use the internet while on the trip. Since I don't want to pay 100€ for using internet. I might be able to edit if the hotel has decent Wi-Fi but I doubt it. Tumpp1357 (talk) 18:00, October 11, 2016 (UTC)

Accidental redirects
I renamed my sandboxes and accidentely created redirect pages for them. Could you delete the redirect pages? Tumpp1357 (talk) 09:56, October 17, 2016 (UTC)

Deadlocked weapon locations
You get the Dual vipers and Magma Cannon in the challenge before the Advanced Qualifier. Since it is a challenge that can only be played once we don't know the name of it. But since the next challenge is named Advanced Qualifier. I quess we could call the first challenge as the Qualifier. --Tumpp1357 (talk) 04:20, October 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Apparently it is called the Qualification Course in the cutscene before the challenge. Tumpp1357 (talk) 08:26, October 20, 2016 (UTC)

How to move pages without leaving a redirect?
I have no idea how to move pages without leaving a redirect. Could you tell me how? (Pointless redirect page Omega Construto Pistol)
 * If you don't have admin rights, you can't, because it would require deleting the original title. Which is dumb. (I could be mistaken, it's been a while, but I believe so. I have a "Leave behind a redirect" box present when I move a page, it's at the bottom of the text box where you type the new name.) 17:17, October 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * I only have the "follow this page" box when moving pages --Tumpp1357 (talk) 17:28, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

Wiki color
Hello, I've been editing the wiki off and on lately whenever I see grammar or capitalization errors. My question, however, is why the orange color scheme was ditched and changed to boring old blue? I'm not sure if I'm asking the right person about it but I quite liked the old color as it matched Ratchet's fur color and the orange color in the logo. If there's a better place to ask this, let me know. Thanks, Mr. Zurkon (talk) 16:03, October 29, 2016 (UTC) 15:54, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Alright gotcha, thanks for the info. I see now the J&D wiki is very similar, I just liked the lombax/R&C logo orange. Also appreciate you informing me about wikia.css, wasn't aware I could do that. Mr. Zurkon (talk) 17:18, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

And the Groovitron situation became complicated
So it is called the Groovitron Glove also in FFA. So I am using Playstation move heroes as a third example for the Groovitron but that is not in this wiki's scope and because of that probably cannot be used as a example. Either way this means you should rethink your vote. The Device forum. Tumpp1357 (talk) 16:30, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

re: Images
Alright, will do. thought the image might just float around unused in any articles. Thanks, Mr. Zurkon (talk) 00:22, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Content moderator
The enemies in GM are not named in-game, so unless the enemies names are taken from a guide they are conjecture. I did do a partial rewrite of the security tank and merged the other versions to that at the same time. (By naming the possible ammunition that a tank uses which was the only difference between the different versions of the security tank pages.)


 * I will merge the other enemies too.Tumpp1357 (talk) 11:37, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox update
Only think to do is research now. Sandbox Tumpp1357 (talk) 18:58, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

New Background Image
Hello, Light Daxter! I liked the new theme and picture. The other one was good as well, but, most times, changes are benefic and welcomed. Nice work =) Sorry if I was a bit too annoying in my last messages on Techno's talkpage; I was not in a good mood that day hahahah

I was thinking on maybe changing the blue buttons to orange again, like it was before. What do you think? The match between the two colors (blue and orange) is great and it adds more contrast. Could you ask everyone out if they agree too?

I'll try to help making edits more regularly now.

Have a nice day! Torta de Limão (talk) 04:14, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok... that was just an idea, anyways. I thought the wiki was a bit too monochromatic. Torta de Limão (talk) 16:12, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Links and Links
I don't think I get it. What do you mean? Torta de Limão (talk) 18:10, November 9, 2016 (UTC) So... just because you disagree with what used to be the usual around here, you are going to prevent me for doing my edit? xD For example, I used to think about the "first mencioned" templates being totally redundant and unnecessary on articles that appeared on only one game, but, whatever; people seem to think it's reasonable, so I left as it was. Now, someone is disagreeing again with something... it's so confusing.
 * Is there a difference? o_0 I think you are the one being annoying now. Torta de Limão (talk) 18:35, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, the disposal of the links are way better when the word, as a whole, is covered by the blue link mark. I see that in most sites and wikis; it keeps the website cleaner and more organized. If you disagree with this, propose a topic or a discussion about it, because, as far as I am afraid of, the wiki has always disposed links the way I did in my lasts edits. Torta de Limão (talk) 19:09, November 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * There is no veritable consensus to support your idea, so one would not need to propose a topic to oppose your idea of syntax. In this case it's a simple debate/discussion, which will be resolved after discussion. In this instance, you're arguing for syntactical verbosity, which is inefficient and unnecessarily lengthy. 19:18, November 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * Jak, I didn't get what you said. No consensus to support my idea? The wiki has always been like that.
 * So, Light, I'd like to ask you, please, to let all the letters in the links highlighted blue, as it is aesthetically better, in most cases, and as the wiki has kept it this way since ever. Thanks. Torta de Limão (talk) 19:37, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Torta all the letters in the links are highlighted blue except when editing a page with the "new visual editor" AKA default editor.Tumpp1357 (talk) 19:43, November 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * "The wiki has always been like that." Source please. Also that's not a very good argument whenever other substantive arguments have been made to challenge it. And yes, like Tumpp said, electroids produces electroids. The only people who would have missed that are those that use the VisualEditor and don't at least preview their edits if not check them afterwards, all of which are bad things. 22:21, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Two unneccessary templates
So apperently we have two templates that are completely unneccessary Template:Battle and Template:War. Not to mention that they look horrible.

(example pages Template:Battle Assault on Tyhrranosis and Template:War The fight against Nefarious). Before I delete them I want to hear your opinion should stay or not. Tumpp1357 (talk) 09:35, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

re:Image redlinks
Sorry about that. When I noticed the notifcation of a new message, I immediately looked at the edit history for my talk page, and upon first glance, it seemed like an unnecessary edit. Thanks for the clarification! I removed the two image redlinks. JoePlay http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a3/Fandom-Staff.png (talk)  17:43, November 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * "Maybe a feature for administrators or bureaucrats where they can toggle whether or not the talk page owner should receive a message if they make an edit is an idea?"
 * Good idea. I encourage you to make that suggestion using the form at Special:Contact/feedback. JoePlay http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/a/a3/Fandom-Staff.png (talk)  15:45, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Categories
On the R&C wiki we've always just had categories in List view and not Exhibition view, but I've seen some wikis with a function for users to switch between them if they wanted one view over the other. I think that it would be good if we could do this, especially with the deletion of the Monsterpedias. You wouldn't happen to know how to set that up would you? Doc Nef (talk) 04:36, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. Doc Nef (talk) 11:00, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

He did it again
User:SquishyShark43 added pages about unnamed fongoid characters. (Sending a related picture to you through Discord)--Tumpp1357 (talk) 15:28, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Do not delete templates that are in use
Hi, Light Daxter. I’m no longer an editor here, but I couldn’t help but notice that you’ve deleted templates that are actually in use on several pages.

One example is the “syntax” template, which is still used on ten pages.

Please use Special:WhatLinksHere to check which pages still use a template and file before you delete it.

I don’t know why you deleted the syntax template, but since it can no longer be used, hopefully, you will clean up the ten pages that still use the template so that they don’t use a non-existent template anymore. 14:55, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * You also did this with the “op” template (Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Op). 08:47, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Question
May I ask why you deleted the s and ' templates? 17:12, April 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you please respond? The template is useful on a variety of pages, such as Clank, as you can see here. It saves you from using the tedious . 05:31, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Page deletions
Hello. I just wanted to say that deleting several pages results in a lot of redlinks on other pages. Not only this makes the pages ugly, but it also makes it difficult to say which redlinks are from deleted pages and which are from requested pages. Redirects are useful in most cases.

By the way, I have noticed that you had edited other users' pages, including mine. Why is that? Thanks.

c0ητr165 Pl@smo +@!κ 17:06, May 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * I’ve also talked to Light Daxter about this, but he doesn’t seem to care.
 * He’s behaving like an unexperienced wiki user who just started a couple weeks ago, not like a wiki administrator.
 * Regarding editing others’ pages, he doesn’t care about guidelines, policies, common sense, morals, or any of the sort. He does what he wants and does not have a care in the world for the wiki’s users. 17:08, May 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not able to tell wether a user is experienced or not, but when most other users do, why did they make him a bureaucrat?
 * Many users delete a lot of pages but what really concerned me was that he edited other users' pages.
 * c0ητr165 Pl@smo +@!κ 17:18, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Also, deleting the page "Glitches", which is almost an established name for bugs in the Ratchet & Clank community, and renaming it bugs wasn't a good idea in my opinion.

c0ητr165 Pl@smo +@!κ 17:38, May 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, administrators should really discuss outright deleting a page without taking action. 19:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree. I've talked about something with him one time ago as well... asked for the links some                     supposed discussions related to the wiki's MoS were made, but I was notified that those pages were simply removed. I mean... they were making huge changes on a website driven by a community of people from all over the world... and the discussions shouldn't be removed at all. Mostly when it is related to huge changes on the wiki, which was the case.  Torta de Limão  ( talk ) 20:32, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Not going to reply here and turn my talkpage into some sort of 'bash the admin because reasons' conversation. I replied to Plasmo on his talk page and anyone else who feels he wants to talk with me can do so on the R&C (wiki) discord channel (because it's faster and more convenient). -- Light Daxter -  Talk  22:25, May 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * For posterity/anyone who comes along and reads this in the future, Techno and I backed LD up on Plasmo's talk page as well because this is silly. 02:05, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

There has been a misunderstanding here. I did not criticise anyone for being inexperienced and I meant that if you were an inexperienced user then why would you have been voted as admin in first place. Since you are, then you must have been an admin for a good reason.

I also did not start any "bash the admin" conversation. Firstly, I just wanted to know why so many pages were deleted and why you edited user pages. I had already noticed, however, that there were redlinks on the pages, but what about an image I used to have on my page? Not every image is used on articles only. Secondly, I expressed my opinion about the "Glitches" page. Instead of characterising me as an inactive troll, you should just inform me and every inactive user about what's going on in order to be able to be active. Also, using the talk pages on articles should be referenced.

So all of you are trying to say that I am not a good user because I am not around here every moment and I am not very active on discussions. On my page, I have noted that I am not going to make a lot of edits anymore, just minor changes. The whole thing started when I tried to edit a page and there were redlinks everywhere.

If you really think I am a bad user, why don't you just ban me anyway? --c0ητr165 Pl@smo +@!κ 07:56, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

Deleting templates
I am very confused as to why you’ve deleted so many templates on this wiki after you gained control over it.

By the way, editing others’ talk page comments and posts is vandalism.

Also, why did you delete so many of this wiki’s policies? 11:32, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1: He deleted the templates and policies because they suck and we will be replacing them with better ones. 2: When the block reason template was deleted, it no longer functioned on your message, and thus had to be changed. 3: He did not commit vandalism anywhere, and your charge as such is unwarranted and constitutes flaming. For a person who is "no longer an editor at this wiki", you sure are causing an unnecessary amount of trouble. 16:26, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Why did he delete Template:Block, though?
 * By the way, I don’t understand how asking an administrator some questions on his talk page equates to trouble. 17:06, May 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's your recent behavior in general. Template:Block was deleted because either 1: the admin can just leave a personalized, simple message for the block reason, no template maintenance required, or 2: the reason is self-evident and we need not waste our time explaining anyway. Why don't you stop concerning yourself with admin duties when you're not even a user here, much less an admin. We have it handled. 17:39, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, am I not allowed to be concerned about a template which I used to maintain now? All I did was ask a question. I don’t understand why you have a problem with that. 17:48, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Because you're asking dumb questions to which there are obvious answers. We've tried ignoring you, but when we do that you try to influence the opinion of two other editors (see above) that we just "don't care" about our userbase or that we're inexperienced or whatever. Which is simply bullshit. Time for you to make good on your promise to go away. 17:55, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * How is asking why an administrator deleted a template which I used to edit and maintain with no explanation a dumb question? 18:04, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * And here's yet another dumb question. I'm going to end this here so we don't spam the wiki, Tim's talk page, and the recent changes feed with a silly argument. It was fun while it lasted. If you want to get anything out in the open once and for all, feel free to PM me on Discord, though in all honesty, I'd rather you just go away. 18:07, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Well, that’s a bit rude, eh? That’s not the kind of behaviour one would expect from an administrator.

Despite me no longer being an editor on this wiki, I’m still concerned, as Light Daxter has deleted plenty of templates which are still used on pages, such as Template:Redirect. Perhaps I should’ve stayed as an administrator to prevent you and Light Daxter from ruining it. 18:12, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * And now you're blocked. Your edits solely consist of trolling the current team, seemingly bitter at the fact that you can no longer just edit war with us when we disagree with you over templates, and trying to deliberately stir up trouble on the wiki under the guise of helping it - and believe us, given your tenure, you are in no position to lecture anyone one the "behaviour one would expect from an administrator". If you want to return to this wiki and make useful contributions, you should have done so. If you instead just want to hang around and troll talk pages, and try to insult the current team, then we do not want you here. Stop wasting our time and get a hobby.-- 19:28, May 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow, a question aimed at one of us without containing insults. While I'd still much rather you just mind your own business, rather sticking around on a wiki looking for opportunities to bash the current team, I'll let this slide and assume good faith this one time - any other instance and I would be blocking you for trolling instead.
 * What is the point of Template:Block? Or any notice template of the sort? To make someones' block message look fancy? You also don't need to leave a "blocked" message for cases like those with the username - the block reason in the log gives this message on its own. So maybe you need a "warning" template, you may ask? Making fancy warning messages to leave on the talk pages of trolls or vandals only encourages them to continue doing it to collect more messages, and for those who are not trolling but instead have good intentions, it is unnecessarily intimidating. So those are not needed either, just type a warning message out.
 * Removing a deleted template is maintenance, not vandalism. While I would prefer to subst templates like that before deleting it, you cannot honestly make the argument that he was vandalising a page unless you are deliberately being dishonest.-- 17:45, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Removing a deleted template from a talk page comment is maintenance, sure, but actually changing the wording of the comment is vandalism. 17:48, May 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Wording needed to be replaced to add context to the rest of the message. It's not vandalism, it's even more than maintenance, it's just common courtesy. Again, stop concerning yourself with these matters. 17:53, May 17, 2017 (UTC)