User talk:Neffy545

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Sorry and really?
Sorry if you thought my edit(s) were wrong, but he does look pretty tall in the game... like Qwark was only just trying to help heh. (not really used to editing pages here yet, but I do now and then and try to fix things and provide proof when needed. I think my browser is a bit glitchy here too.)

125.239.218.8 22:44, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Edits being reverted
When someone reverts your edits, please do not undo them unless they're blatantly vandalism. Ask them why your edits were reverted before undoing their revert, or else it may result in an edit war. Thank you. // N i f k y  ° 09:59, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wolf
Yes, thank you, but I am not of high level so I cannot delete it. By the way, the picture is of Wolf from Star Fox. I'll keep checking to see if he does anything else and I will leave a message on his talk page. Thank you, HaYdOs271 Chat to me! ??? 22:42, April 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Never mind about the message. HaYdOs271 Haydos271-Sig1.jpg to me! ??? 22:44, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Idiot
Stop reverting edits that might be useful, why don'y you make your self useful and stop. 71.254.115.43 00:01, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tachyon talk page
Went there, and made my point. :P HaYdOs271 Chat to me! ??? 23:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring
Please do not edit war with editors on any article, like you did at Tachyon. I have protected the page, please use the talk page of the article to discuss rather than an undo war. // N i <font color="#7ad91e">f <font color="#7fde22">k <font color="#8dec30">y  <font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color="#c4d5b3">° 14:33, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Settlement
I've already decided to go with MIA for Tachyon (at least for the time being). I'm not trying to dismiss his significance or the possibility that he will return, I just think it's been confirmed as is, but if it's going to be this way then fine I'll leave that bit for now. As for the Zoni dying, what do you mean they fell down? I only saw them flying away. They are pure energy. Petty robot guns are unlikely to kill them, and the powers of the HBS were only able to weaken them. If your statement about them seen falling during the opening gameplay is true, then I suppose that they could go under possible deaths. The trio seen in the mnemonic chamber, however, did not die; we saw them in later gameplay escape the HBS as Clank followed. But I cannot allow the Trivia statement about the Cragmites coming back to stay on Tachyon's page. That is pure speculation, not to mention spelling errors. I can see that you either read the theories I myself wrote long ago and are taking them on after I abandoned them (as the way you are wording them is exactly how I did when I was still believing Tachyon to be alive), or you are the reincarnation of my older outlooks. Regardless, we cannot have fan speculation on any article, or this wiki will lose its pristine. Same goes for EVERY high quality wiki. We can only put unconfirmed statements if they are absolutely implied, which none of the things you have written are. And after he was thrown off-screen and sucked into the hole, he cannot be heard anymore. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 23:44, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed they should delete Trio of Zoni. And yes, I remember Lawrence stating the number going down, but this is due to the Zoni running away; Nefarious said "Zoni, come back! I was only kidding!" There wasn't an indication that they were being killed off, which is unlikely. And sure, you could see Zoni falling after being hit, but the same exact thing happened during TOD gameplay with Clank. If an enemy or obstacle hit one of your Zoni companions, he would fall onto the ground, seemingly dead, and teleport away, only to reappear and return to Clank. That being said, what was shown in the beginning of ACIT can only indicate the same thing: they were damaged, but teleported to safety. How can pure energy beings die? It doesn't make sense to me how that is possible. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 00:21, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Trio of Zoni / Klunk
That first bit of news is very productive. Thanks for the update. As for Klunk, that is very unfortunate. This was in the Galactic Trivia? A major dissapointment, though I would like to see what the words were in there. I guess I'll need to find a YouTube vid or hope I'm lucky enough to see it in-game. Thanks. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:11, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I say remove the hinting and leave it as unknown, since this would cause Secret Agent Clank and A Crack in Time to both directly conflict with one another. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:47, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * In that regard, Nefarious may have been unaware that he returned or was still in tact, assuming he was actually dead. That being said, it seems inappropriate to say he is dead just yet. So, his status should be unknown IMHO. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:58, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Buried? Interesting. Well, they could've maken a small mistake, but there was more than enough time between the production of SAC and the production of ACIT for them to have noted the PSP game's ending. It could be that Ratchet lost possession of Klunk or gave/threw the vaccum away, then his deactivated body was recovered by Nefarious. One way or the other, I think this should be discussed in the Agenda. I'll add it myself. Thank you for bringing this puzzle to my attention. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 22:11, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Taken care of, don't worry. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 22:23, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Protection
There was no mistake, I deliberately protected it. There were too many major changes that went undiscussed, or didn't go with a community vote, and that's why we should wait 'till the next IRC meeting for any changes. The talk page is cluttered with quarells as well. -- <font face="Tahoma">Tigernose  •  <font face="Aharoni">Chat   •  <font face="Aharoni">Edits   21:16, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Featured user nomination / MIA and KIA
Thank you very much for your support. It would be such an honor. And MIA/KIA seems too technical, so I personally think Active, Deceased and Unknown to be better character statuses. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 19:55, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darkwater?
Before I go changing your edit and risking another unecessary edit war, I must know what your source is that Darkwater is alive. I never saw any evidence in ACIT that he survived, and I'm pretty sure that only Slag and Pete were heard on Pirate Radio. What YouTube video did you check to clarify this? -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 01:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

What I meant was that those who we saw in an explosion or some sort of inescapable fate (i.e. Drek and Vox) we know to be dead. Those others you mentioned that we saw in perfectly normal situations we know are still out there, and when I said Nefarious and Tachyon, I meant that they are the only ones we saw in life-threatening situations that have an implied chance of survival (i.e. the news report and his warping powers). I kinda rushed that statement and didn't think of a better way to put it forward; I'm just absolutely sick of speculation that nobody can back up. As for the Darkwater report, that is very interesting. I guess I need to listen to space radio more. I'll check it myself as reassurance when I get the chance, but thank you for pointing that out. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 16:46, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a shame they confused the Klunk ordeal. As for Drek, I think we'll just need to ask Tigernose or someone available to lock the page as Deceased. And the Darkwater thing is on Pirate Radio, or was it a news report? Another rare find I heard once was an interview with Mr. Zurkon. XP -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 23:30, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I remember seeing his name in the revisions and I left a summary message under my last edit just for him. If he makes one more speculative statement I'm going to ask an admin to block the page, because it's simply logical to realize Drek is dead. Case closed. As for the Mr. Zurkon thing, I don't recall what sector it's heard in, but its presented in breaking news report fashion. Kip Darling is having a one-on-one interview with him asking his opinion on the time crisis or something, and he says a few of his famous battle lines as casual replies to his questions. I absolutely remember his Matrix spoof line, "You are the disease, and Mr. Zurkon is the cure," being said. Unfortunately, the exact contents beyond that I don't remember. Who knows how many rare finds there are in space radio? Once, after I went to the Corvus Sector for the first time after finishing Morklon, I somehow got two news reports in a row, the second one being the report about Angela Cross. Space radio teases players to no end! -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 00:51, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

We should both tell Tigernose that. It would be most beneficial for a broad, relevant topic. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 01:18, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Chairman Drek
I'm not a Drek freak, but Insomniac never confirmed his death. Plus, Nefarious teleprted out of the biobliterator, who says Drek couldn't have teleported away from the planet? sure he would have severe injuries, but he could have survived. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 17:53, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not gonna start an editing war, but Tachyon didn't show up in the next game, But there is also no source that implies Drek's death. I'm not saying he's alive, but I'm not saying he's dead either. Insomniac has a habit of not having recurring villians i.e. Drek, (with the only exception is Nefarious) meaning that it's not entirely true that he WOULD have, but he was mentioned and cameo'd alot. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 18:11, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

O OK I see. I'll do that. Thanks for clearing it up. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 18:37, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I hate Drek, he's the worst villian yet (behind Otto) in my opinion, but I was actually agreeing. He could have died, but all I did was put what I said in trivia, as fan speculation. sorry for this whole mess thing. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 18:56, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

yea sorry for that i was in a bad mood.

As for Drek, here is what I see:

number 1. do you have a source that Drek is dead? no.

number 2. A video by insomniac confirming he's dead? no.

number 3. Tooken into account that THE LAWS OF PHYSICS DO NOT APPLY IN R & C GAMES? no.

number 4. noticed Nefarious was in a giant explosion in his space station (I saw the cinematic, Lawrence didnt get him sadly) number 5. and no one is saying he's dead? no.

number 6. Any In-game reference saying he's dead? no.

number 7. not noticed I'm saying "most likely" not "dead"? yes.

I'm not saying he's alive, I'm saying his death was not confirmed.

oh, and before you start putting he's dead EVERYWHERE YOU CAN, read the above. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 23:11, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

that's interesting, where did you find the whole blarg thing? but anyway, this isn't about Drek but Nefarious sliding off is also a bit of speculation, but i'm not gonna fight over that. If you can please tell me a little more about the poster I will go and check. thanks. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 23:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I saw the cutscene, when Ratchet said "escape pod" and Lawrence flies away, you can clearly see Nefarious on the ship-thingy.

anyway, I keep saying, laws of physics don't apply, meaning that in Ratchet's universe Drek might have survived, but that's unlikely. If the laws DID then the whole series would have never happened. Remember Nefarious crashing on Zanifar on a FLAMING asteroid going possibly the same speed or faster than Drek, and HE survived, actually, he did fine. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 23:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

When did it ever say anything about fongoids teleporting? anyway, explosion, laws, don't apply, If the Nefarious thing isn't enough, the same thing is with Ratchet and Qwark, flying at an unstoppable speed towards Quantos in Aphelion, survived, and still alive. and "Drek gone" doesen't mean dead, he could have just quit or just got out of office as chairman, leaving the blarg with noone to govern them. <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 00:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

actually, I remember a few more people who crash landed at fast speeds,

Ratchet and Clank on Novalis,

Clank on Veldin,

Qwark (when stealing the Dimensionator and going to Reepor)

Aphelion on Fastoon (well, this one doesen't realy count since it's a ship and it was in the atmosphere but whatever)

I can't remember the rest but anyway, back to Drek, I think we should wait until Insomniac gives more clues.<font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 00:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC) (I'm terrible at remembering to sign comments.)

Deal. anyway, (really irrelevant thing following) I was asking people (for a little survey I was doing) wouldn't it have been awesomer if the Chimp-O-Matic in ACiT would've turned people into Skrunch? So far, everyone said yes XD <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet Ratchet's Dojo 01:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

okay, so I emailed Insomniac a few days ago and I was gonna put it here (my computer, like my ps3 hates me.) anyway, I asked them about Drek, and this is what they put:

"As far as we know, Drek died in R&C1. Although, his body was never seen. Who knows, we could be seeing him in future games."

It's not EXACTLY what they put, but it's close enough. whaddayoo think? <font face="Sabon Infant DK Italic">Ninja Ratchet The Center for Advanced Stealthy Lombaxes 06:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Vox and Drek
Normally I'd say it's irrelevant, but since we have that kind of stuff for the characters that have or have almost sworn, and general character comparisons, I think it'd be okay to add. Feel free. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 04:17, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I sent this user a warning message that all the edit warring will upset admins if he doesn't quit it. And it's fine. These are relevant events I prefer to keep ourselves updated on. BTW, I actually know what he was talking about with the banana Secret Agent Clank thing. He means it referenced Clank's thing as SAC with Skrunch and the use of bananas to get Skrunch to do things as seen in UYA. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:04, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

No harm done. I'll put it in Sigmund's Trivia myself. But that's the only edit this user made that we can keep; everything else has no reason to go in the articles. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 22:08, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's okay. I got it covered. BTW, when you come back, I was wondering if you ever came accross something in TOD. I heard somewhere that in Ublik Passage, Slag's Fleet, a pair of pirates could be heard talking about seeing Dr. Nefarious on the asteroid passing by somewhere. "I seen him! A brain like clockwork!", or something like that. I never heard this myself before I sold my copy (traded it in to get another game), but I was wondering if you knew anything about that. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 22:21, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, interesting. This would indeed show that Ratchet's remark in Deadlocked was more than just an insult (minus the "Blarg-headed" part); however, before edits are made to Al's page, I think it should go in the agenda. I'm busy at the moment, so could you take care of that? -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 17:47, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * He really does. :P And I know, I really want to get a copy of it on Greatest Hits. What I think they might do is release the Future saga in a bundle pack. Nothing outright confirms this, but it would be nice. I just want TOD trophies! -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 23:03, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, QFB was a disc in Europe, so you never know. There could even be other extra adventures like that one. As for the Smuggler, I have no clue what his species is. It seems sort of new to me. I'll have to take a better look at him. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 23:46, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll leave it as Unknown and put his resemblances in Triva myself. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 23:55, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why thank you. I hope I can set some good examples for the wiki. I think since others like Haydos or Tigernose have already had a few chances to be FU before, you yourself would be a candidate for July. You certainly are one of the most frequent editors in the recent edits section. And don't worry about it. Community teamwork helps things around here get done much faster. :P -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 01:51, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nefarious and Tachyon
Indeed, it is very nice to see that they both have some implied chance of being alive. What I have always hated is when the main villain is stealing the show for the whole story and showing off his badassness, and then after he falls, someone else who was not the main villain has to be our last boss. I did enjoy the side plot of Azimuth's corruption, but Nefarious should be the one with the final curtain. Still, if Tachyon and Nefarious do return, it is possible that they will both have this honor; Nefarious, then Tachyon, or Tachyon, then Nefarious, or both of them together! The possibilities are endless, and I love it! -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 20:48, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's the best I've got. What we should remember is that each time Nefarious was working with "squishies" (Terachnoids and Tyhrranoids alike), he was merely using them as mercenaries; they were only temporary, expendable, and in the end, Nefarious would've turned them all into robots anyway. And his time campaign may have overshadowed his organism vendetta, but as shown in the infiltration of the Nefarious Space Station, he was going to go back to that after resetting history for the villains. Then, he would just turn on his fellow villains and make them his robot slaves. He did say that he would imprison organisms in the Stone Age while fighting Ratchet. What I don't get is why people think that he was gonna stop himself from being turned into a robot in the first place; the clock grants temporal immunity to all who use it, so he himself would've chosen to not be changed by it. Rather, he would make his own time period where villains are his allies, "squishies" are his slaves, and then the universe is turned into robots under his rule. If he were to team up with Tachyon and the Cragmites, it would be the same thing: betrayal when they have outlived their use. Still, Tachyon is better than that, so if Nefarious tried, it would be nowhere near easy to double-cross. He might gain a respect for the Cragmites or something and really be allied with them, IDK. Either way, these two need at least a cameo, or else: (quote Nefarious during boss fight) Now I'm REALLY ANGRY!!! XP -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:23, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic! Now the confusion is solved! I always wondered where the buried thing came from, as it never said that's what happened in the trivia. Glad to see it was a load of bull. I remember once, when I saw the end SAC vid on YouTube, someone commented how it would be cool and funny to have the vaccum Klunk as the new Suck Cannon! XD Even if the Tombli Outpost thing was made up as a joke, their jokes are still usually somewhat relevant to the canon to be placed in the game; this was apparently the same case with the Angela Lombax thing (Kip says "I know that was the assumption...", meaning the fans. :P). So, I think it should still be mentioned in the biography section, but put the joking thing in trivia also. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 01:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Tigernose kindly lifted death's protection level to registered users only; he trusts there will be no further edit wars. That is something strictly prohibited here. I fixed that article up myself. Feel free to check it out and discuss what could be improved. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 22:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

That is a very nice comback! XD And I'll have a look at your version, then. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 01:24, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Neffy, I know that certain sections of my revision were too long, but I shortened them. Death must stay in this current format, because all canon characters, even minor robots/enemies should be mentioned, not just guys like Sprocket. And if a robot is a notable character and since they all have sentience in this universe, they must be kept. And the article must describe what death is, much like similar topics involved in and out of the series (i.e. time). Please don't revert it back to the less-quality version. I shortened the overloaded sections already. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 02:14, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I did spot your new icon; the image I used to have in my signature, might I add! :P It suits you more than me, though. And the article seems pretty good as it is at the moment. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 21:02, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should definitely go through with the video. I'd enjoy watching it. And I do not have an account as of yet, but I will let you know as soon as I launch it. -- Mateo22 Nefarious Scarred.jpg Contact 03:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I was afraid by unprotecting Death, there would be further arguments. In my opinion, all contested deaths should be placed in the Possible Deaths section. I protected the article, Nifky said herself that one more undo would result in protection... and guess what: a undo was performed by an unregistred user. Honestly... anyway, I couldn't find Drek anywhere in the article. Where is he? -- <font face="Tahoma">Tigernose  •  <font face="Aharoni">Chat   •  <font face="Aharoni">Edits   21:17, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why did you delete my edits at the Alister Azimuth page? I didn't do anything wrong! Contact me and tell me what did I do wrong. Commando reko 20:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)